> Значит чего там у Ванкувера, ээ, Сиэтл и Портланд. В Сиетле был пролетом, в баре пил музхед. В Портланде имел место быть. И слегка писал тут об этом. Круто с точки зрения природы. Хочу там жить. Но это Штаты. Как там с работой в Портланде - сомневаюсь.
Why is this an issue? I though we were comparing tourist destinations around Toronto and Vancouver...
> Так вот что-то хреново там в последнее время. То без электричества сидят, то силиконовый бум кончился. А жилье там вообще без мата не опишешь. Диагноз такой - к 35 не взял моргиж, поезд ушел на всегда.
Why is this an issue? I though we were comparing tourist destinations around Toronto and Vancouver...
> ЛА - зоопарк в бесконечных малоэтажных джунглях с полуразрушенной деревней Холивуд.
I have to disagree with you on that. After I returned from my (only visit) in the 90's, I was telling my friends that coming to LA from Toronto was the same as coming to Toronto from Kiev. And that is the case if we don't take the climate, the amazing tropical plants and birds, etc into account. The people I was visiting (a graphic designer and a music teacher from Kiev) lived in Beverly Hills. Their place wasn't very expensive, but it was amazing. Ok, it is difficult to describe LA. Basically the LA I saw was what I would refer to as paradise.
The following images convey the "feel" of LA (or at least how it appeared to me back then):
http://www.trekearth.com/gallery/North_ ... o63935.htm
http://www.trekearth.com/gallery/North_ ... o63785.htm
Sunny, clean, exotic fragrant flowers and humming birds, luxury cars and other signs of wealth, smiling happy and content people. We spent a week there. We visited many places (I remember one was Santa Barbara), and it looked this way everywhere.
> В Нью-Йорк они ездят.
That's 8-10 hours one way, right? According to google, it is 8.5 hours if one doesn't stop. And remember, in U.S. they seem to give more speeding tickets than in Canada.
And again, I believe a lot of people would agree that San Fransisco is more interesting to visit than New York, unless the person is travelling to shop and to eat at some exotic restaurants.
> А если охота у море. Нет проблем как на востоке. Хошь на Кубу, хош во Флориду, хош на Карибы. Купаться можно круглый год и лететь не так далеко.
It takes two full days to drive from Toronto to Florida (one way). It takes something like 1-1.5 more hours to fly from Vancouver to Карибы, than it takes to fly there from Toronto. It costs something like $100-200 more (round trip).
> Да и восточный берег Канады еще круче и дичее Западного.
How can the east coast be wilder than the west coast, if there are no roads anywhere near the coast for 1000km north of Vancouver? One can take a ferry, and visit the little villages on the west coast that are completely cut off from civilization.
I remember searching for images of Atlantic Canada. Please take a look at
http://www.trekearth.com/gallery/North_ ... /Atlantic/
and see if that looks better than the west coast images.
> Ходу туда, если на бешенных собаках, часов восемь-десять.
According to Google, it is 14 hours and 15 minutes from Toronto to Fredericton (if you drive without stopping). Fredericton is on the very west of what is considered Atlantic Canada. I believe it would be another 5-8 hours to get from Fredericton to the coast.
> А насчет маленьких таких городков в БК. Чей-то я сумлеваюсь что у них шарму больше чем у маленьких и не очень городков Онтарио.
How come you think that?
> Да и Квебек тут у нас не так далеко. А уж они-то по шарману в Северной Америке первые.
According to the Quebec tourist information.
> А насчет жития в городе. А зачем У меня работа в часе езды. В Торонто. Не каждый день. А живу загородом.
I am pretty sure that if someone lives one hour outside of Vancouver, they will not have to face high real estate prices, etc. And they will be right in the middle of the region where there are a LOT of mushrooms.
According to
http://www.fpl.fs.fed.us/documnts/usda/ ... b66611.pdf
In Oregon and Washington states the harvest for Chanterelle is 4 million pounds, Morels - half a million pounds, etc.
"Picking and selling wild edible mushrooms provides supplemental seasonal income for many. It is estimated that Washington has from 700 to 900 commercial mushroom pickers whose earnings range from a few dollars to $3,000 – $5,000 in a good season."
Elsewhere in the document, they say that one can sell mushrooms for something like $3 per pound. So that means there are people out there who collect 500 kg (1000 pounds) of mushrooms during a season.
У меня работа в часе езды. В Торонто. Не каждый день. А живу загородом. Писал тут об этом уже как-то не раз. Да гор огромных нет, окияна нет. Но леса и озера с реками есть. В десяти минутах езды от дома. Заблудиться не получиться, а погулять пару часов или купнуться и поплавать на каное - элементарно. Причем без толп. 
This totally sucks...